Curse

Moloch Vein · May 24, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

The energy problem is why builds using daggers become very attractive, as well as areas with no heavy blocking (or riposte/deadly riposte which will cut through SF).

Mickey · May 24, 2008, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

The energy problem is why builds using daggers become very attractive, as well as areas with no heavy blocking (or riposte/deadly riposte which will cut through SF).

For some reason, I never have energy problems, and I'm at 46 energy.

Moloch Vein · May 24, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Paradox/Swift/SF is a 30e combo. If you add a couple of ele nukes even with GoLE you'll run into heavy e-problems. Only real way to solve this is through zealous auto-attacking, I think.

Jhadur · May 24, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

I run the Ebon Standard/Sliver variant and I never have energy problems on my sin. Unless you're spamming sliver without waiting for GoLE.
I am running 55ish energy though so maybe that helps

Hailey Anne · May 24, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by graverobber2

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shadow_Form
wiki says it does remove shadowform

You have to remember that wiki is made and maintained by GW players. Some of which dont always know what they are talking about.

mazza558 · May 24, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

I'm actually finding the dagger variant a lot faster to use, especially in tombs.

legacyofkain85 · May 24, 2008, 09:22 PM // 21:22

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Originally Posted by traeskapa

Well, that's the thing, it doesn't matter if you pull aatxes.
They can't hurt you with SF on, so just keep hitting the graspings, and run to plains when you're done.

i dont see how aatxes can hurt u with shadow form on,unless u hit them in melee (using sword,axe,hammer,scythe,daggers)because they have ripostes especialy deadly riposte which is energy activated unlike riposte

P.S: for uw i still use a/me because having awesome energy management is better for me than sliver armor altho sometimes i wish i could go a/e/me lol

ReZDoGG · May 24, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico

Before the Buff of SF. In UW Run my allaince leader and I ment the few people who were able to get Perman SF wit just 21sec at 16 Shadow Arts. But what he was explaining that a very good way to kill monsters fast is use the Deadly Arts as a dmg dealer. He would be using Dancing Daggers to kill foes 1 by 1 but it faster than using Degan. After few thoughts. Combine Dancing Daggers with Radiation Field use Lesser Energy to help energy management with Rad Field the skill 15 energy. It will work on HM but it sorta slow but you dont have to worry about the monsters running. The AoE dmg would be degan from the Ward.

Yup, that was the usual A/Me Echo SF build... I was using the Radiation/Cry of Pain Perma build since 5 months ago. It still works pretty good, and is still fairly fast on killing enemies. But now with 32 sec Shadow Form and Glyph of Swiftness, there is alot more builds you can use as Perma Shadow with Ele skills. Builds are almost basically the same as before for A/E, but now you can add one skill to keep Shadow Form on to speed farming up... instead of using Shadow Of Haste. Enemies still flee from degen in HM when their health gets low, but with long lasting degen enemies fleeing is not a problem.

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Paradox/Swift/SF is a 30e combo. If you add a couple of ele nukes even with GoLE you'll run into heavy e-problems. Only real way to solve this is through zealous auto-attacking, I think.

Aslong as you know how to manage ur own energy, you should be fine with any A/E build. Sliver or Fire builds work fine, sometimes you might get low on energy, but you always end up with enough to stay alive, and eventually you will regen to almost full energy. The fire build is fine for energy, actually was alot better than I thought... using GoLE and Fire Attunement is enough to keep your energy more than half most of the time.

Koricen · May 24, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

GoLE should cover you with a Sliver Armor build, as far as my experience has been. When I run a dagger build I always keep a +20 energy 20% enchant staff with me in case of an emergency. I've yet to run a nuke build.

traeskapa · May 25, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by legacyofkain85

i dont see how aatxes can hurt u with shadow form on,unless u hit them in melee (using sword,axe,hammer,scythe,daggers)because they have ripostes especialy deadly riposte which is energy activated unlike riposte

P.S: for uw i still use a/me because having awesome energy management is better for me than sliver armor altho sometimes i wish i could go a/e/me lol

Well, that was what I said, they can't hurt you.

Lest121 · May 25, 2008, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Fun outside Olafstead.

Lest121 · May 25, 2008, 09:37 AM // 09:37

Glint's Challenge works with A/E sliver Armor, You must wait for all the Groups to arrive takes about 3 mins, just stand there keeping SF up, if you know about the W/rit farm just stand in the same spot and wait.......... Sadly can't tell you about the second wave because i messed up and DIED, fail to renew SF in time but I had all but 3 of them dead, and I was doing it in HM.

10 cores before i died woot i am gonna get my gloves for Free.

PS:Watch out for Spirit Rift you are dead in 2 secs.

Warriorsrmint · May 25, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Am i right in thinking that in UW you can solo:
Aataxes
Graspings
Smites
Mindblades

Is there anything else you can solo in uw?

Mr.Kotte · May 25, 2008, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Terrorwebs. Add anti-KD and gogo

Mister_Abc · May 25, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

how would you farm Smites with their Zealous Fire?

Warriorsrmint · May 25, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by Mister_Abc

how would you farm Smites with their Zealous Fire?

Something like shadows refuge or just run out of it

Warriorsrmint · May 25, 2008, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Just found a farmable boss for elite war tomes, if you have the quest An End to Suffering you can lure the vermin beside where Afflicted Tunkan spawns just outside Senji's Corner, try and get sliver to target Tunkan when you have the 4 vermin atacking you aswell because he use endure pain, take vipers defence and either tenais crystal or aftershock and he will drop fairly quick.

Edit- The quest is non repeatable by the looks so you have to abandon it after you kill him.
Edit 2- just add this into your Vermin run for a bit more cash.

ReZDoGG · May 25, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Update: Added Part 2 Video to list. It shows a few more places that can be farmed affectively with Sliver. Enjoy.

Chthon · May 25, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

Terrorwebs. Add anti-KD and gogo

Why do you need anti-knockdown when they can't target you w/ MS in the first place?

Warriorsrmint · May 25, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by Chthon

Why do you need anti-knockdown when they can't target you w/ MS in the first place?

I thought MS was an indirect AoE because its cast to your location not actually on you.